Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/03/1993 09:06 AM Senate STA

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  SENATOR LEMAN  introduced SB  56  (ADMINISTRATION OF  BUDGET                 
  RESERVE   FUND)   and    invited   Senator   Phillips    and                 
  Representative Brown to join the committee at the table.                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR PHILLIPS  testified that  the legislation  clarifies                 
  "administrative  proceedings" and  puts  the money  into the                 
  Constitutional Budget Reserve Fund.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER moved to adopt the work draft dated 2/2/93 to                 
  SB 56.  There were no objections and it was so ordered.                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  BROWN   said   she   participated   in   the                 
  development  of  the  bill  as  she   is  a  member  of  the                 
  Legislative Budget and Audit Committee.   She explained that                 
  the CS has  two changes on page  1, section 1, which  is the                 
  section that reflects  the interest as well as  penalties on                 
  past  due taxes.   Secondly,  on page  2, line 2,  the words                 
  "been requested" was substituted for  the word "begun" which                 
  she  said  also refers  to  past due  taxes.   She  said the                 
  substantial lag time  between the request  and the time  the                 
  hearing actually began needed to be addressed.                               
                                                                               
  Number 065                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  BROWN explained  the  issues are  what money                 
  should go into the Constitutional Budget Reserve and what is                 
  meant by the term "administrative proceeding."                               
                                                                               
  DARREL  REXWINKEL,  Commissioner,   Department  of   Revenue                 
  testified in  favor of  the amendments  adopted  in CSSB  56                 
  (STA).   He  said in  1990, the  voters adopted  legislation                 
  regarding the  Constitutional Budget Reserve  Fund which has                 
  language  about the settlement of taxes  which would go into                 
  it.                                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER REXWINKEL  said an  Attorney General's  opinion                 
  explain   what   really   constitutes   an   "administrative                 
  proceeding."  During  the audit process, the  taxpayers file                 
  voluntary tax returns  which the  Department of Revenue  can                 
  audit.  Because of the large  amounts of money involved, all                 
  of the major  oil producers are  audited.    As a result  of                 
  that audit  process, an assessment  notice is  issued.   The                 
  taxpayer then  has sixty  days to  pay the  tax, request  an                 
  informal conference, or  request a formal hearing.  He noted                 
  it has to go  through a formal hearing process before it can                 
  go to litigation.                                                            
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER  REXWINKEL   said  he  supports   the  Attorney                 
  General's opinion.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 120                                                                   
                                                                               
  He also said  there was  some question about  the amount  of                 
  money involved.   Last  year there  was $16  million in  the                 
  Constitutional Budget  Reserve  Fund.    Once  the  Attorney                 
  General's opinion had been released, they started to look at                 
  the  settlement   receipts  and   noticed  that  some   were                 
  improperly classified as general fund money.  The Department                 
  then started auditing general  fund receipts as far  back as                 
  July 1, 1990 to see if it had any funds that belonged in the                 
  Constitutional  Budget Reserve  Fund.    The Department  now                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  believes  the  amount  that  goes  into  the  Administrative                 
  Settlement account is probably a little over $200 million.                   
                                                                               
  Number 175                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR TAYLOR said he disagreed  strongly with the Attorney                 
  General's opinion and is  not yet convinced that there  is a                 
  real reason to  modify what  he considers to  be very  clear                 
  language.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 200                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER REXWINKEL testified  that the informal  hearing                 
  process is  like an  extension of  the  audit. The  auditors                 
  issue   assessment  notices,   sometimes,   based  on   very                 
  incomplete  information.    Through   the  hearing  process,                 
  auditors stick by their assessment notice or issue a revised                 
  notice of assessment.  Then there  is either a settlement or                 
  a hearing.                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAMES  BALDWIN, Assistant  Attorney General,  testified that                 
  the  Department  of Law  was  not concerned  with  where the                 
  dollars would wind up, they were concerned with establishing                 
  a good definition of "administrative proceedings" aside from                 
  the audit process.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 225                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BROWN  asked about  the recalculation of  the                 
  Administrative Settlement Account and the source of the $200                 
  million.  COMMISSIONER REXWINKEL answered that was yet to be                 
  fully determined.   A majority  of the funds  came from  the                 
  litigation  on  the   royalty  cases,   so  it  is   clearly                 
  Constitutional Budget Reserve Fund money.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 250                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN  commented that  he  was concerned  about the                 
  retroactive application of the audits.                                       
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  BROWN   explained  the  bill   would  become                 
  effective 90  days after  enactment if  it did  not have  an                 
  effective date. As  it is  drafted presently,  the issue  is                 
  what to do  with the Administrative Settlement  Account that                 
  was mixed with the general fund.   Presumably, she said, you                 
  could make this bill retroactive and try to sweep money back                 
  into  the Constitutional  Budget  Reserve  Fund.   Assistant                 
  Attorney General Baldwin  suggested the six months  that now                 
  appears  in  this bill.    REPRESENTATIVE BROWN  agreed with                 
  Senator  Taylor  that the  language  in the  constitution is                 
  clear  and that  we  are attempting  to  capture all  monies                 
  including  windfalls  and  back  taxes.   For  the  Attorney                 
  General to ignore the issue of where the money ended up, she                 
  thought, was a misreading  of the history.  She  did believe                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  that it is necessary  to pass some bill that  addresses this                 
  issue.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 300                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN said he would like to know why the bill needed                 
  an effective date sooner  than ninety days to deal  with the                 
  retroactive issues?                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 325                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BROWN said the last section of the bill makes                 
  it easier to access  the fund by defining what  is available                 
  for appropriations.  That is  a provision the administration                 
  does support.   It specifies that  we could not be  counting                 
  the  earnings  reserve  of  the  permanent fund  before  the                 
  legislature  could  access  this fund  or  other  designated                 
  funds.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 350                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  DUNCAN  said the  Committee  should have  a clearer                 
  understanding  from the administration  what the real impact                 
  is on revenues  available for fiscal year  94.  COMMISSIONER                 
  REXWINKEL said he would have the information in a week.                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BROWN said she had requested an accounting on                 
  October 5, 1992.   She  received a brief  reply in  December                 
  saying there was $103 million in the fund  and she was still                 
  trying  to get a  straight answer  on what  settlements have                 
  come in and what the disposition of them has been.                           
                                                                               
  Number 375                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER  REXWINKEL  apologized to  Representative Brown                 
  and  to the State  Affairs Committee members,  but the audit                 
  was not done, yet.                                                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR  TAYLOR    wanted  to  determine the  definition  of                 
  "administration  hearing"  and  "receive."     He  was  also                 
  concerned about the ability of the Governor and the Attorney                 
  General to settle litigation like the $16 million with Tyson                 
  Seafoods.  Apparently,   the  Attorney   General  has   been                 
  negotiating with Tyson to build the  State a couple of boats                 
  for The Department  of Fish  and Game.   While  the need  is                 
  there and  Tyson can build  them at a  low price,  he didn't                 
  think it was  the Attorney General's  job to decide how  the                 
  settlement  should  be  spent.    He  thought   it  was  the                 
  legislature's job to appropriate those funds.                                
                                                                               
  The legislature  let it  happen once  with the  Exxon-Valdez                 
  settlement, but he  would not support further  activities of                 
  that nature.                                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 400                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN  said  the  committee  would  hold SB  56  in                 
  committee  and  appointed   a  subcommittee  consisting   of                 
  Senators Duncan, Taylor and Leman.                                           

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